I notice that you do not reply to any of my responses to you, bubleeshaark. Makes me wonder, especially given your initial observation that we can have no basis for conversation since I am not a bible believer, whatever that means. I don’t hold the bible to be the equal of God, if that is what you mean. I once had a man angrily tell me, after some discussion about his beliefs, that the bible IS God, all the while shaking it in my face. Whereupon I took it from him and threw it on the floor, and then asked him how it was that I, a ‘mere’ human, could possibly have enough strength to throw an all-powerful God on the floor. I thought his head would explode. You remind me, by your comments, of that man.