Or is your point about the unions? Well, yeah, the unions were part of the problem, for sure. But again, not sure what that has to do with the City of Detroit. Maybe a clarification is in order: it's not the car companies employees' pensions that are at risk right now- it's the city employees. Their union has nothing to do with the car companies, but the shrinkage of the tax base was directly affected by what happened. So- forces outside of their control have put their pensions on the chopping block. Hence my statement that they dont deserve what is happening right now.