David, so very true. The real test for martial art effectiveness is on the street. Years ago we had a high ranking Judo instructor, who was also a police sergeant, on the dept. He was in charge of teaching self defense to the police academy recruits. One night while working in a two man unit downtown, the officers came upon a confrontation, involving several intoxicated persons. All of the subjects left the area when ordered to do so except for one. The subject resisted arrest and our Judo instructor sergeant tried to use his techniques to take the subject into custody. Not only did the techniques not work but the officer was injured and had to have assistance taking the man into custody. The Judo program was dropped from the academy curriculum. I am not bashing Judo, but in this time and place, it didn’t produce the intended results that were needed. The emphasis now is strength training and boxing. I would be interested in knowing what your methods of training for law enforcement officers were. I believe most departments today put their emphasis on strength training and cardio fitness to meet the different challenges the officer will face on the street. Gods peace David, Doug.