On to other, other issues. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr Chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Unfortunately I do not know the answer to that question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr Chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You're welcome. Senator Hise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr Chair. A few things I wanted to go through. First on the CCMC provisions 360-362, I was under the understanding we had originally set a three tiered system and required a zero payment level. Was under the impression that the department was unable to implement that and there was no buy in from the association, that's why we stepped away from that. What are the conditions that have changed in that manner that would bring us to say go ahead and implement what you don't have. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Blackwich. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Chair, Senator Hise, I do not know of any conditions that have changed. All I know is that the House took a different approach. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And a comment on those there with the contracts that are on there, and this might be in a question, but, for not having the CCNC this was tied very closely to having a new division that we were creating, and so we were trying to not have the previous department enact contracts that bound the new division beyond the date the transfer was coming in. There's no, and just to clarify for a follow up on this one, there was nothing in the provision on the Senate side that said the new division could not do any contracts with CCNC or extend them out as far as they wished. The prohibition was only on the department as I understood that and we intended to write that. And the next area I kind of want to hit up if I can follow up? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is somebody giving 280, 288 dealing with the copay changes and those type of things, do we have a current number on what the wait list or a best estimate of what we think the wait list is for subsidies right now? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ms. Landrick? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Hise, the current wait list for childcare is subsidies actually much lower than normal because of the reallocation of funds, so it's around 20,000 right now where it usually averages around 40,000 over a year. Once the reallocated funds, depending on how the budget turns out, if those individuals are on a temporary voucher, so beginning on July they would go back on the waiting list and then you'd again average around 40,000 at that point. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And follow up on those. I guess this is kind of where I'm going with this on comparison of the two. When the House takes, the Senate took the funds and put it toward reduction of the wait list, plus we changed the funding formula to make sure that those allocated slots became permanent slots in those counties, was coming through in this budget year. Do you have a sense of where the budget list, where the wait list would compare between the House and the Senate when the House takes the money and puts it into making each slot more expensive by increasing the market rates and doesn't do the other operations and goes back to the new formula, do you have a sense of what that difference would be in the waiting list. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Hise, Debra Landry with fiscal research, what I can tell you is that after the market rate increases are done and the remaining money is put in towards the waiting list, on an ongoing basis it would be about 2,200 slots, 2,200 children off the waiting list. That happens over time because the House implements the change to childcare eligibility over time. They don't do it immediately. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do you have another question Senator Hise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I don't know, follow this in the House and I may be trying to get to questions of maybe things that may have been said in debate or maybe even to intent, and maybe that's a little further, but for the provisions on 327, the transparency acts, as well as 355, publishing the Medicaid payment to providers, did we get any indication from debate or others, what's the House's opposition to transparency and to having that information publicly available. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Who would like to tackle that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I can. Similar to Ms.