...I guess provisions dealing with appeals for recipients. Dealing with the modification of recipient appeals and dealing with Medicaid provisions, excuse me, Medicaid services. If someone could address what it is that we are doing here and the differences between what the Senate and House are proposing. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ms. Hillman? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. Jennifer Hillman, Research Division. The Senate version really did three things. In line 7 through 26, where it says Senate only, it shortens the time which a recipient would have to request an appeal with the Office of Administrative Hearings to the federal minimally required amount of time, which is basically before the action becomes effective. They would have until the date that the action becomes effective to request a hearing. Then on line 41, it makes a change that would allow, or require, OAH to dismiss a contested case if a recipient requests mediation and then fails to meaningfully participate. I noted that in the House version, they change the term meaningfully participate to fails to attend. And then on lines 43 through 47, the Senate version clarifies the burden of proof, stating that the recipient always bears the burden of proof in contested cases at the Office of Administrative Hearings, which is consistent with how other petitioners are treated at the Office of Administrative Hearings. And so of those changes, the House did not shorten the time period and the House did not make the clarification of the burden of proof. They only allowed OAH to dismiss cases for failure to attend mediation. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Chairman, may I make one follow-up on the difference between the House and the Senate on the attend mediation versus meaningfully participate? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Please go ahead. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ryan Black, Legislative Drafting. Senator McKissick, just to let you know that the meaningfully participate language came from language suggested by the Governor and the issue with meaningfully participate is it's sort of hard to nail down and what this actually creates is a reason that a case can be dismissed. And so instead of using meaningfully participate, by using attend mediation, that then is an objective standard that all of the participating parties could say, yes they attended or no, they did not. And so that's a little bit more in line with the reason that something could be dismissed. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Excellent. I appreciate those explanations. Follow-up, Mr. ??, if I could. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Let me interrupt first. I believe our rules call for us to end our meetings when a floor session's coming up within 15 minutes. But in our discretion, if we can get a couple of questions answered that will finish up our deliberations so we don't have to come back at 5 o'clock this afternoon. I recognize you, Senator McKissick for one more question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It needs some the same issue. I clearly prefer that language failure to appear. I think its inherently ambiguous when you have to say that someone doesn't meaningfully participate, it's subject to an objective standard, which I think doesn't need to be involved in these situations. Now, the clarification I'm seeking is the Senate would be shortening the time frame for appeals to those that are minimally required. What is the difference time frame wise between what we do now and what the new federal standard would be? And then lastly, I'm assuming that all of this applies to appeals which occur after the enactment and passage of the budget bill, assuming it's a special provision and it has absolutely no retroactive application. But if we could get some clarity on those matters, as well. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ms. Hillman. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Jennifer Hillman, Research Division. Yes, you're correct that this would apply to appeals that are filed going forward. It would not have any retroactive effect. And the current time period for requesting appeal is 30 days from the notice of adverse action and the change here would require them to request the appeal before the action that's being taken and the notice becomes effective. And that notice must be given at least 10 days before the effective date. So it would be the time for appealing would be no shorter than 10 days, basically. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Last follow-up, Mr. ?? and...