I think we’ve given bubleeshaark every argument in the book to persuade him of the wrongness of his ideas regarding the Bible and homosexuality, and he persists in seeking to refute everything we offer and to argue for his own rightness/righteousness. A couple of times I have challenged him to reveal the reason for his passionate defense of his position, since I believe it comes either from his fighting his own internal sense of being gay – which scares him to death, as it causes him to fear being cast into hell if he acts upon it – or from his having had a disturbing life experience that he relates to homosexuality or to the person from whom he experienced harm being gay. He has yet to respond with anything that is self-revealing, in contrast to the quite extensive self-revelation of many others of us on this thread.