Firstly, I wish to leave the rhetoric to one side. It is often unfair, and leads to unending accusations about the ‘other side’ being more polemical and many misinterpretations. For example, McGrath points to my mentioning that I am a secular scholar, as if I say that to seem superior to everybody else, when I primarily mentioned it to highlight where I agree with prominent secular historicists like Ehrman and Casey. We all generally agree that Jesus was not divine, God does not exist, miracles do not happen, and so forth. What we disagree on is whether there did exist a purely human Earthly Jesus, effectively making this a ‘debate among atheists’. McGrath also points to my earlier espousing of the ‘Aramaic primacy’ hypothesis, indicating that I obscure my spiritual and intellectual journey. This is just silliness; I held to that view as a teenager, and am always happy to acknowledge that I believed many untrue things back then, such as that God exists and that Jesus rose from death. I also once believed in Santa Claus. How things have changed! I have revised my conclusions as I have been exposed to more evidence, which is something we hopefully all do. It is also absurd to imply that I pretend that there is no difference between a Bart Ehrman and a William Lane Craig, especially when one is familiar with my body of work. So, let us stick to the meat of the arguments; though with the polemics put aside there isn’t much to address.