Some of the live oaks in VA Beach are clearly, unquestionably virginiana. Argue all you want whether they are introduced or not, but it seems unlikely. Certainly geminata is likely to be present as well, thus some inevitable confusion thrown in. Old records of live oaks in Matthews County and the Eastern Shore hold some credence. Anyway, I I think I might have accidentally dropped numerous Virginiana based live oak acorns on the Eastern shore at some point in the last 20 years.